Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Dear GB: Please give me my panda's back, pretty please...

  by suavojr in

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  new book about the kingdom and jw's history.

  they are pushing this overlapping generation and with this graph we can see how they have a short time before they are forced to adjust this "new light".

  the 3 musketeers.

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  Sorry, all the pandas are apostate now.
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  July 2014--135 Years of the Watchtower

  by Londo111 in

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  2. bible

  http://www.mostholyfaith.com/bible/reprints/z1879jul.asp.

  the first issue of the watchtower was july 1879, about 135 years ago.

  it is interesting to skim the first issue, as well as the letter that russell sent out to the readers of the previous magazine he was involved with, the herald of the morning.. as to the split between russell and barbour, while the issue over the ransom seems a contributing factor, the first concern in russells letter is a monetary dispute.. the early issues of the watchtower were open to many viewpoints.

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  As I recall, that first Watch Tower issue had a prominent article about the ransom and reasoned that Adam and Eve would be resurrected.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Sorry DJS, I'm gonna be a little too busy for the next 30 years or so.

  There's television to watch, there's chips to eat, there's beer to drink. I just don't have the time to be sent back to the bOrg.

  Sorry
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  "Signs of the Times" Magazine published since 1874 - better than Watchtower and Awake!

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever seen the 'signs of the times' magazine published by the seventh day adventists?

  i saw one at my local take-out recently for the first time and had a quick flick through.

  i thought it was rather better the awake and/or watchtower!

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  The magazine and the website are eerily similar to WT.

  I had a classmate that was SDA. She took every opportunity to use sabbath, passover, whatever, to get out of working on the required group projects.
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  Let Truth and Falsehood Grapple

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a favorite new quote, john milton, .

  let [truth] and falsehood grapple; who ever knew truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?.

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  Milton was clearly not talking about JW 'truth'. But then, the word 'truth' is omitted from the WT mantra, "listen, obey, and be blessed."
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  I got asked to do the literature cart witnessing!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as i have told everyone here, i am well along in my fade, and know ttatt.

  i have even been pursued by the elders and interrogated re my "seemingly loss of spirituality and activity etc..." even though i am still an ms.. but cop this!...

  i have been asked to join in the exclusive literature cart witnessing activity!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  You had such a good response to JW harassment on your other thread, I would love to see you match it again. Maybe...

  "After watching the new video, I realize that I should spend more time with my family. Certainly during service time I need to be policing all their ambitions, thoughts, and desires or they'll be going wild and then I'll have to have a magical old JW couple move into the basement to get my kids to obey. Right now, I just don't think it will go over well if my family has to do d2d while I get to just stand (or sit) around counting my time.

  "Besides, this would be a perfect opportunity for Br. CantWalkButInsistsOnTakingEveryDoor. This way, he wouldn't have to walk around and the people could come to him. Or maybe Sr. PhantomPioneer. She never goes out on the weekend, so maybe this would be a good way for her to be more visible in the ministry and set a better example for supporting weekend witnessing."

  Think anything like that would work?
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  International Convention...Same Message, Same Emotional Manipulation

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, of course nothing else would be expected, but it passes me off.. for example, they show this short video that shows a child dying, shows her father crying as he visits her grave...and then she is reunited with her family in "the new system" and then it shows a handicapped girl who is sad she can't ice skate with friends...fast forward to tns, she can skate!!!

  then an elderly couple is shown happily young again.... .

  and of course the end is "so close!

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  Sounds like something they could sell to lots of other religions once they're done showing it at this series of crapventions. Just trade "New System" for "Heaven".
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  What to do when my wife is away for a week and I am supposed to attend this years RC?

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  easy... skip it!.

  but already i had people calling me asking where i was yesterday!!!!

  the system the jw's have in place can be compared to a communist regime , where everyone keeps a check on each other.

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  It's enough to give you explosive diarrhea. I recommend that you stay home and look after that.
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  Kate Wild

  by quellycatface in

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  i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.

  not well at all.

  i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..

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  Kate...

  
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  JW.org says that the Bible knew that the earth was suspended in empty space

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "the earth is suspended in empty space.

  (job 26:7) many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.".

  http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/science-and-the-bible/.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Certain verses can be cherry-picked and translated to say whatever.

  For me, one complete deal-breaker is that Genesis says that two (or seven) of all "kinds" of animals were put in a wooden box the size of a large parking garage, and then there was a global flood. Taking that Noachian flood story literally is completely illogical, unscientific, and absurd. Just thinking about Watchtower's defense of the flood legend still makes me ill to think that I ever believed that nonsense. I look at that JW.org content and am ashamed that I was involved with such deception.

  Anyway, I don't think I've welcomed you to the forum yet, opusdei. So, WELCOME!

  Here's an old thread I started about kangaroos and the flood.

  And here's another about population issues between the flood and the tower.